Scammers

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There is a problem in the locksmith industry that started around 2005 in some areas of the US and from there went nationwide.  In the industry they are called scammers.  This is how they operate.

 

 

They seem to follow a list of rules like these;

  • They take out yellow pages advertisements and place advertisements on the web for/in a town or city that looks like they have been in business there for a long time.
  • They don’t take out just one advertisement and don’t just use one locksmith name, instead they use many.  In some geographic areas as many as 35 or more.
  • They use phony addresses in conjunction with the advertisements, for example vacant lots, drugstores, Laundromats, even legitimate locksmiths real addresses.
  • They have all the local phone number calls forwarded to their office which typically is in another city around 1,000 miles away.
  • They have their phone people quote car or house openings as a $35 to $55 service call.  They don’t tell people that the service call just gets the person on-site, it costs extra to open the door/car, etc. and the price of the service call is doubled or more.
  • They have the “Locksmith” fake picking the lock and when it doesn’t open advise the customer that it must be drilled for an additional charge, another $30 to $50.
  • They have the locksmith offer to replace the drilled lock with a new one.  Typically a $20 lock is used but sold anywhere from $100 to $500.
  • They specify cash only, that way there can’t be a charge back on a credit card or a stop payment on a check when the customer realizes they have been scammed.
  • They don’t tell the customer that the “Locksmith” sent out is usually an illegal alien from Europe or the Middle East who has only had about a weeks worth of training.
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    Yes, they have it down to a science.  About now you are asking:

    How Do I Protect Myself From Them? 

    Do THIS,  BEFORE you really need a locksmith.

     

    Find a real locksmith who is a local business.  You can do that a couple of ways.  You can call and ask if you can bring a lock to their shop for repair.  If they say no and had an address in the phone book or on the web find out why. 

    Even if they say yes, drive by there some time and verify a locksmith business is located there and even verify the telephone number because the scammers will sometimes use their own phone number with a local locksmith’s address.

     Was the address phony?   Then you might have found a scammer.

    There are mobile only local locksmiths who are legitimate but usually they won’t list an address in an advertisement.  If mobile only, find someone who does have an actual shop and ask if they know the mobile only guy.  Odds are if they know him he is legitimate. 

    Mobile only locksmiths typically do not want the overhead associated with a permanent shop that must be manned all day.  Many times there just aren’t enough customers who would walk into a shop during the day to let a shop break even.  The mobile only locksmith is also more likely in many cases to be willing to make after hours or emergency service calls.

    With a shop or mobile only, the local locksmith will typically provide quick efficient service at a reasonable price.  One scammer trick is to quote a lower cost and then change the charge after he gets there.  Ask the locksmith you call to quote a complete price for a lockout.  NOT just the service call.  Typically the scammer will not do that but a legitimate locksmith will ask enough questions to qualify his charges before coming to do the work. 

    Legitimate locksmiths will typically be able to give a firm price for complete service if you can give them enough information about your lock.  One important thing they need to know is the brand of the cylinder if you are locked out of your house 

     

    Many states in the US have recently passed legislation that requires locksmiths to be licensed and they must take classes to earn continuing education credits before they can renew a license.  If you live in one of those states, always ask for the license number. Typically it can be checked online via a government web site.

     

22 Comments

  1. Lyle Hensley  •  Jan 26, 2009 @8:51 am

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  2. Larry  •  Jan 26, 2009 @4:17 pm
  3. Admin  •  Jan 26, 2009 @5:51 pm

    Feel free to post a link back to this article Lyle. We need to get the word out to all the general public we can reach.

  4. amefiancatte  •  Apr 3, 2009 @1:50 pm

    По моему у Вас украли эту статью и поместили на другом сайте. Я её уже видела.

    In my opinion in you they stole this article and placed on other site. I already saw it.

  5. admin  •  Apr 3, 2009 @5:56 pm

    They have no shame. At least it is getting the word out

    Они не имеют никакой стыд. Хотя бы он получает слово вне.

  6. boallege  •  Apr 8, 2009 @4:35 pm

    Классная статья, кстати автору хочу предложить установить от яндекс.денег фишку на сайт “Дай рубль”. Я бы дал, так сказать на поддержание.

    Class article, by the way to the author I want to propose to establish from [yandeks].[deneg] chip to the site “give ruble”. I would give, so to say for the maintenance.

  7. admin  •  Apr 8, 2009 @5:55 pm

    Thank you for the offer but it really isn’t required. The few people who click on the Google ads will cause enough income to pay for the site.

    Вы для предложения но его действительно isn’ требуемый t. Немногие люди которые щелкают дальше рекламы Google причинят достаточный доход оплатить для места.

  8. Ambisp  •  Apr 10, 2009 @3:17 pm

    Очень интересно. Но чего-то не хватает. Может быть, стоит добавить каких-нибудь картинок или фото?

    It is very interesting. But something is not sufficient. It can be, it is worthwhile to add any pictures or photo?

  9. admin  •  Apr 10, 2009 @4:39 pm

    If you can think of a way to illustrate a scammer you have a better imagination than I do.

    Если вы можете думать путя проиллюстрировать scammer, то вы имеете более лучшее воображение чем я делаю.

  10. ArralfCirl  •  Apr 14, 2009 @8:56 am

    Очень интересно, но все в будущем хотелось бы еще побольше узнать об этом. Очень понравилась ваша статья!

    It is very interesting, but everything in the future would be desirable to still a little more learn about this. Your article greatly was pleased!

  11. admin  •  Apr 14, 2009 @11:13 am

    There is a link to much more information in one of the comments.

    Соединение к очень больше информации в одном из комментариев.

  12. Ionito  •  Apr 14, 2009 @11:51 pm

    Интересно, а почему так редко блог обновляете?

    It is interesting, and why so rarely [blog] you do renew?

  13. admin  •  Apr 15, 2009 @5:24 am

    I just use blogging software to answer inquiries. If no one asks for the solution to new problems there isn’t a reason for a new post.

    Я как раз использую blogging програмное обеспечение для того чтобы ответить дознаниям. Если никто просит разрешение к новым проблемам там isn’ t причина для нового столба.

  14. Steetailliog  •  Apr 16, 2009 @1:42 pm

    Хорошо пишете. Надеюсь, когда-нибудь увижу нечто подобное и на своем блоге…

    You write well. I hope, I will sometimes see something similar and on my [bloge]…

  15. admin  •  Apr 16, 2009 @4:59 pm

    Thank you. I looked at your site, the graphics are great and it looks very organized. My lack of Russian is a problem though.

    Вы. Я посмотрел ваше место, графики больш и оно смотрит очень организованным. Мое отсутсвие русского проблема однако.

  16. ovavanny  •  Apr 27, 2009 @9:26 am

    а вот вопросик можно? У вас время после поста указано. Это московское? Заранее спасибо!

    and here [voprosik] is possible? In you the time after post is indicated. This Moscow? Previously thanks!

  17. admin  •  Apr 28, 2009 @4:54 am

    I think the time stamp is from the server physical location in California, USA.

    Я думаю что фиксация времени от фактического месторасположения в Калифорния, США сервера.

  18. Sevastyana  •  May 24, 2009 @3:23 pm

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    Portal simply remarkable, I will recommend by all familiar

  19. opponnaHExt  •  Jun 5, 2009 @2:50 am

    Добрый день всем посетителям этого прекрасного блога. Хочу внести и свой вклад в целую историю положительных отзывов. Как и все остальные пользователи этого блога, я полностью доволен абсолютно всем (что бывает довольно редко, т.к. по профессии я педагог). Скорость работы, навигация, условно понятый интерфейс и целое море положительной информации – моя любимая обстановка. Сегодня я первый раз на этом сайте, но уже готов стать активным его пользователем. Буду рад всем, кто поддержит меня и будет также изо дня в день пользоваться данным блогом.

    Good day to all visitors of this excellent [bloga]. I want to make my contribution to whole history of positive opinions. Like all the remaining users of this [bloga], I am completely contented absolutely by all (that there is sufficiently rarely, t [k] on the profession I teacher). Operating speed, navigation, conditionally understood interface and the entire sea of positive information - my dear situation. Today I for the first time on this site, but am already ready to become his active user. I will be rad all, who will support me and it will also every day use the data by [blogom].

  20. erersteek  •  Jun 7, 2009 @6:33 am

    А я считаю, что все это верно и очень точно подмечено! И таких мелочей можно накопать тысячу.

    But I consider that all this is correct and is very accurately noticed! And it is possible to dig out thousand such trifles.

  21. enevealiaples  •  Jun 19, 2009 @1:50 am

    Хорошо пишете. Надеюсь, когда-нибудь увижу нечто подобное и на своем блоге…

    You write well. I hope, I will sometimes see something similar and on my [bloge]…

  22. inwaltGriniaf  •  Jun 28, 2009 @9:36 pm

    Думаю, эту тему можно развивать до бесконечности
    Хорошо пишете. Учились где-то или просто с опытом пришло?

    I think, this theme can be developed to infinity You write well. They did learn somewhere or simply with the experience alien?



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